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If awarepaths can be identically produced by different physipaths, then sub and super awarepaths can be identical as well using the same proofs.

But what about parts of different awarepaths can they be identical. If they can be what is the proof or proofs of this? 

If this is the case it has consequences.

Lets prove from the negative given that there can not be identical simiawarepaths. This would mean that I do not see blue the same as you that means that there must be many variations to blue. If each sub area is different then the combination of all the different subawarepath must be different? Unless the combining process changes the different parts into an identical whole.

Can there be identical simiphysipaths? We can have identical functioning of a neuron. We can have identical functioning of a set of neurons within a system of neurons. Does this process exist for any size of neural system?

Within a neural system of more complex nature will the range of functioning of a subset of neurons be more restricted that the set out side of the complex of neural interactions. The out side of the simisystem that we are looking at can act like a sensepath. We have the simisystem that is stimulated by the rest of the neural system or we have a sense path that is effecting the equivalent simisystem but is a complete system. The question is will the two different systems produce the same consciousness or is there something that being part of a larger system adds to the whole. And if it does how or why does this happen? If it does would it be based on the concept of the geometric increase of permutations with larger neural systems.

The internapath of a larger system of neurons will generate more variability in functioning than a smaller system. How can we look at this to find an answer? Random fluxuations do to QM seem to cancel out in more complex systems. If this randomness cancels out before it effects the functioning of the neurons then a more complex system would not carry over to a larger system do to QM.
Now if we exclude the Qm effects and just deal with the neural system itself

Can a larger system be identical if no parts are identical?
But we are not talking about identical we are talking about identity with in sub part of the awarepath where the whole is not identical.

We can also start with two awarepaths that are not identical and have no subparts/ simipaths in common. How can they ever converge if there are not parts that become identical before the whole awarepaths becomes identical?
What if two awarepaths are not identical until the last change? What is the size of this last change. This may be possible. Can things become more alike with out ever having any part identical until the last this is the continuum idea.

The continuum idea is that if simipaths are never identical within non identical awarepaths there can be convergent nonidentical simiawarepath that only become identical at the point of identity of the whole system. This may be true for two non identical awarepaths but will it always be true for the comparison of all awarepaths? It will put major restrictions on the continuum of awarepaths because if there are never parts of any awarepaths that are identical until the whole awarepath is identical it greatly limits the awarepath that are available or existent. This is a basis of a proof. If we look at functions in mathematics we can see examples of this lets consider a two dimensional space -- a sheet of paper. We can draw a awarepath on that sheet of paper as a line we can now draw a second awarepath and we can converge and diverge the two so that for a period of time they are identical How do we see if a sub part of the awarepaths is identical? There are only two variables in this case so there are two numbers connected to each awarepath at each point we can say that if they share any number the same then they are identical for a part but what might be better would be a sequence of points of one variable the same for instance (0,1) ->(0,2) and for the second awarepath (1,1) ->(1,2). They share a sequence the same but not exact in booth variables. This could represent the two convergent on a simipath for a period of time. A real awarepath mapped to an n-dimensional space will have many variables that could converge or not. Imagine where they never converge until the last total convergent. We can imagine this for many but if we take all possible paths this seems less and less likely.

The question is: Are there or can there be any cases where the awarepaths are not identical but there are parts or simipaths of these awarepaths that are identical? What are the consequences of this? The consequences are that some awarepath can actually know what other experience because they also experience this. Most people believe that we share experiences that are identical or very close to identical.




There are thus at least reason to believe that non identical awarepath can have identical awarepaths

1. Common sense experience argument: It is normal to think others have feeling etc. that are the same as our own thus they have simiawarepaths the same. 
2. Physipath argument. Physipaths can have identical subparts so since they produce awarepaths it seems reasonable that the awarepaths can have identical subparts as well.
3. Awarepath arguments it put major restrictions on what types of awarepaths that can be produced if there can not be different awarepaths that have parts that are the same.



There are another statements to be proved as well

2. Any awarepath has at least one other awarepath that is not identical but has an identical simiawarepath.

3. For any awarepath there are many nonidentical awarepaths that have identical simiawarepaths with in them.

Why are these important? This is another ways of survival. And also a matrix of simiawarepaths may produce a complete awarepath that never exist in reality. If not it still tells us a lot about consciousness and how it is created. We have to answer the question why doesn’t a matrix of simiawarepaths produce a complete awarepath?
What about non complete matrix of simiawarepaths produce. Do they relate through time and space etc.