Ch13 oricit.expri.reality
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Citoptimism Citopessimism Citoculturalrelativism Citoinfluence Citomagic Citoreality
We see things not as they are but as we are. Ana`is Nin
Orioptimism should optimism & pessimism be combined?
Discussion: Awarepaths can have positive or negative perspectives on the world. Beliefs systems can have positive and negative perspectives on the world.
Question(s): After teaching the original the ideas of MMT will he be more positive about life? If the originals believes these ideas does he have a more positive attitude about life and peoples place in this world.
Definition: Orioptimism is the term for concept for the originals perspective on the world and how belief systems effect this world view.
Experiment set Orioptimism: Teach the original the ideas and see if he has a happier outlook on life. Teach originas at differnet stages of their life and see if they more optimistic.
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Principle of Orioptimism: Most originals that understand and believe these ideas will have a more optimistic outlook on life.
Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: There is hell, you have to give control, rationality and curosity, CST: Life at all the levels of reincarnation and the cast system is makes life rather grim. NST: The best you can look forward toward is personel extenction. SMT: The out look can be rather negative with no life after death and this life being so difficult. MMT: Has the most positive world view when it is understood.
CAM/VT analogy Orioptimism: The movie “your life” can be grim and depressing with nothing to look forward with you living that life or the oppisite
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Why/how Important?: It can change
Citoptimism
Discussion: There is a lot of depression in the world caused by many things such as disabilities, mental illness, the bad things that a person has done. But for every bad awarepath there are both good awarepaths and bad awarepaths consequently if you are depressed because of experiencing the bad aspect of you like there can also be many good awarepaths that are potential that you will experience also
Question(s): How does changing peoples world view effect optimism of individuals and society
Definition: Citoptimism is the term for the concept that there can be many exact copies of the
Experiment set Citoptimism: You can experiment with cidentireplicas at any point on their awarepath any time in future. You can teach belief systems starting at a young age where you do not have to change their belief system and world view and see how this effects optimism.
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Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: The concept of heaven give people some optimism but it can come with so many restriction and fears of hell plus you have no control you hope who ever control this process is no capricious. CST: The idea that you will exist in another life can be positive but the fact that many animal lives are not happy or conscious in the way people are and that the suffering can be repeated over and over again for ever is not. NST: The idea that you can escape pain is nice but the idea that you have to give up the wonderful aspects of consciousness is not. SMT: This removes all the negative aspects of the other belief systems such as hell or repeating difficult lives but you only have this short life to make the most of.
MMT: The big advantage of this theory over the others besides being positive is that it is true where as the other are false. No amount of faith is going to make a false theory true. But the MMT theory can make false belief systems appear to be true
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Oripessimism
Discussion: What is pessimism when it relates to consciousness? A pessimistic world can make awarepath negative. Where they do not need to be if they believe in the MMT. When we look at the world there are many reasons to be pessimistic. There is suffering death fear etc.
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Definition: Oripessimism is the term for
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Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: CST: NST: SMT: MMT:
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Citopessimism
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Definition: Citopessimism is the term for the concept
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Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: CST: NST: SMT: MMT:
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Oriculturalrelativism
Discussion: Cultural relativism is the concept that many differnt cultures can have awarepath within them that are positive, but does this make the culture something that shoul exist just because there are awarepaths within it that are good positive worth while? The MMT solves this becasue it allows the positive awarepaths from a culture to exist with out the negative aspects of the culture applied to the other awarepaths.
We want to expereince many differnt things but we want to reduce the suffering -- negative awaremoments awaresections. Each coriginal can have a differnt perspective on what he is concerned about-- what makes a good/ positive awarepath and what makes a negative awarepath. This is shown in the existence of machichism sadism
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Definition: Oriculturalrelativism is the term for the concept
Experiment set Oriculturalrelativism:
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Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: CST: NST: SMT: MMT:
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Why/how Important?: Reduction in undesireable awaremoments: RUAM
Citoculturalrelativism
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Definition: Citoculturalrelativism is the term for the concept
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Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: CST: NST: SMT: MMT:
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Orinfluence
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Question(s): Is an awarepath that does no harm a bad awarepath? What if the same awarepath, if or when it actually effects the world, does cause great harm? Can the awarepath of the original effect the enviroment in many differnt ways if it is produced in different ways? Can the original’s physipath be produced in different way awarepath
Definition: Orinfluence is the term for the effect that the originals awarepath /physipath has on its enviroment. Orinfluence is measureable quanity.
Experiment set Orinfluence:
Prediction(s))/Difference in theories: Identical awarepaths can be produced in differnt ways. As the ways change so does its influence or effect on the universe that produces it.
Proof(s)/supporting evidence: Different physipath can produce the same awarepath
Principle of Orinfluence: The original’s awarepath can be created in different ways by physipath that have different effects on reality.
Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: CST: NST: SMT: MMT: This allows awarepaths that should not effect the world be created
CAM/VT analogy Orinfluence: The effect that a movie has on it enviroment can vary greatly. A movie while being made have very little effect on the enviroment for instance if it is made by a computer but if it is made recording actual events that the movie needs to develop the story it can effect many people and the enviroment. Once played it can effect the enviroment. The movie “Your life” can be played and no one watches or it can be played and many people
Subjective (uxperiencit) example: Hitler had a major effect on the world but his awarepath could have been generated in a awarepaducer that only interacted with a computer. In this case no one would have died, or suffered. The distruction of the war would not have been caused even though hitler would have expereiced exactly what he in fact did.
Why/how Important?: This is an important concept because it allows
Citoinfluence
Discussion: The influence that an original creates is a one time shot. But the same awarepath produced by a different physipath can be very differnt
Question(s): Can awarepaths be produced that have very limited effect on the enviroment?
Definition: Citoinfluence is the term for the effect that the cidentireplica awarepath /physipath has on its enviroment.
Experiment set Citoinfluence: Experiments would explore the possibility of making reduced or non influencial physipath.They could be brain in a vat experiments or transformational physipaths that are produced electronicly or photonicly. Keeping strictly to the concept of a cidentireplica there is producing the cidentireplica exactly but with a different enviropath producing the same sensepath thus awarepath.
Prediction(s))/Difference in theories: It allows the making of a hitler like awarepath with out causing distruction of the world or pain or suffering to other feeling life forms.
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Principle of Citoinfluence: Awarepath of an original can be created with different levels of interaction with the enviroment or reality.
Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: CST: NST: SMT: No such concept exists because cidentireplicas do not produce the same ixperiencit as the original. MMT: The concept of citoinfluence allows the creation of many awarepaths that would other wise be unacceptable in the real world.
CAM/VT analogy Citoinfluence: If a show is played and no one watches it, it has little effect. If on the other hand the showing of the movie to a bunch of people upsets them so much that they distroy things, kill people, start a long lasting violent revolution this has had a major effect on the world
Subjective (uxperiencit) example: If the awarepath that you are experiencing now is produced by a brain in a vat of chemicals, stimulated by a complex computer that can recreate the reality that you are expereincing, the things that you think that you are doing are in fact not happening. You are not interacting with other people. You are not changing the world in the way you think. In fact you are changing the world very little. The interaction with the world is the interaction with the computer and the chemicals in the at where your brain sits.
Why/how Important?: This is an important concept because it allows the study of awarepaths or awaremoments that should never be allowed to effect reality. It allows us to create many different awarepaths that would other wise be banned but should be created for numerous other reasons.
Orimagic
Discussion: Because the structure and functioning of the brain can be manipulated by the sensepath and and other means what in reality is impossible is a creatable awarepath in an awarepaducer.
Question(s): Can impossible (magical) expereinces be produced in an awarepaducer?
Definition: Orimagic is the term for the concept that we can produce awarepaths that seem real but could never exist in reality.
Experiment set Orimagic:
Prediction(s))/Difference in theories: These awarepaths are potential in our universe
Proof(s)/supporting evidence: Our ability to manipulate the reality that we expereince through TVs, video games, drugs, etc. is continuously increasing.
Principle of Orimagic: The sensepath of the original can be modifyed in many ways that can produce realities for the original that seem magical.
Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: Usually not something that we think that a god of most religions would create or allow to exist. CST: NST: Within reincarnation you can be any animal so you might be able to experience many novel things. SMT: MMT:
CAM/VT analogy Orimagic: We already see the magic that is put in movies. That can never exist in reality.
Subjective (uxperiencit) example: You the original imagine that you now live in a magical world. You can fly with out machines, you can walk through wall pick up heavy objects. This world does ot have to be logical or rational. Imagine a dream that seems as real as being awake.
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Citomagic
Discussion: The perceptions of loved one can be created where really there is no consciousness of those loved ones. With the manipulation of the sensepath mountains can move seas can part or disappear any god like power that a person can imagine can be created. And there exists the potential awarepath that each set of events for every original.
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Definition: Citomagic is the term for the concept of experiences beyoud reality for the cidentireplica.
Experiment set Citomagic:
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Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: CST: NST: SMT: MMT:
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Subjective (uxperiencit) example: The original will not be able to experience this kind of magic now.
Why/how Important?: It allows the originals magical expereinces to to spread out through space and time.
Orireality
Discussion: The reality that the original believes it is in may in fact be created. There is no garentee that what you expereince is reality it may take layers of awarepaducers to make reality into the reality that we -- the original experiences. Any belief system can then seem logical or emperically based. The brain has the ability to accept any strange events as fact then try to predict the future from these events. If the events are so random the person might just give up and then does what ever it wants with fear that at any moment for any reason it will suffer. It is like the mouse experiment where the mouse gets a reward randomly as well as punishment randomly. The original is only going to understandand be aware a small part of the reality that he is in.
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Definition: Orireality is the term for the reality that the original is in and thinks that he is in.
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Principle of Orireality: There can be many different apparent levels of realities that underlie the reality that the original expereinces. The reality that the original thinks he exists in may be very different from the one he does exist in.
Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: CST: NST: SMT: MMT:
CAM/VT analogy Orireality: What you think is real may just be the set for the movie Your life.
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Citoreality
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Definition: Citoreality is the term for
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Type of immortality, TCE, DMF /Difference in theories: SST, CST, NST, SMT, MMT: SST: CST: NST: SMT: MMT:
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