Ch9. Replication experiments, arguments, principles and their analogies 13

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Ch9. Replication experiments, arguments, principles and their analogies

   1. What is a replication of a conscious body experiment is?
   2. What replication experiments are supposed to show?
   3. Identical replication of consciousness producing bodies cidentireplicas
   4. Near identical replication near videntireplicas
   5. Replications with variable changes at the present time
   6. Replications in the past
   7. Replications in the future
   8. Replications after restoration 
   9. Replications after the reconfiguration of structure of the body 
   10. Replications after reconfiguration of  the physapath producing the same awarepath or ixperiencitness   
   11. Replications with recombinations of awareparts


Definitions

Replication Identireplica Cidentireplica Videntireplica

General assumptions for replication of physapaths after death

   1. Replication of of physapaths and physasections in a different body are concepts that can be scientifically studied.
   2. The concept of the replication of identical structure and functioning, in a different body, can be understood and used as part of a foundation for understating important ideas like behavior, consciousness and ixperiencitness. 
   3. Since producing identity of structure and functioning in a different body is essentially impossible, this concept is like many other non existent but useful ideas like infinity, parallel lines, straight lines, perfect circles, exact measurement, etc., can be useful in understanding behavior, consciousness, and ixperiencitness. 
   4. There is no logical or physical contradictions in assuming that the structure and functioning that occurs in a body at one time period can approximately be replicated in another body at the same or  at a different time period.
   5. There physically exists a structure of any particular brain and body at each point in time. 
   6. The body's structure is changing is some ways from previous points in time to future points in time. 
   7. This change in structure is defined as the functioning of the body and brain over time.
   8. The brain or consciousness producing of the body can be distinguished by definition and physically, from the rest of the body.
   9. Experiments with the replication of physapaths and physasections in a different body can be imagined, designed, started and eventually completed.


Existence proof for physapaths contains:

   1. Proof for existence matter and energy existence
   2. Proof for matters ability to change 
   3. Proof that matter can be structured in complex ways  
   4. Proof that matter can change from one complex state to another complex over time
   5. All based on external observational evidence by oneself and others
   6. No to limited counter empirical evidence
   7. No logical counter evidence


Existence proof for awarepaths

   1. Consciousness appears to exist
   2. Consciousness appears to have a existed in the past 
   3. Consciousness appears that it will exist in the future 
   4. There appears to be a connection between the past present and future
   5. The existence of awarepaths can be based on the time period from the past to the present there does not have to be a future for awarepaths to exist
   6. All based on personal experience (consciousness/ awarepaths) plus communication with others with the same experiences


Identical replication of structure and functioning is logically possible, Identical replication of an actual previously existing structure and functioning (physapath) is logically possible, Identical replication of a conceivable structure and functioning (physapath) is logically possible,

Nearly identical replication of structure and functioning is logically possible, Nearly identical replication of an actual previously existing structure and functioning (physapath) is logically possible, Nearly identical replication of a conceivable structure and functioning (physapath) is logically possible,

Closely identical replication of structure and functioning is logically possible Closely identical replication of an actual previously existing structure and functioning (physapath) is logically possible, Closely identical replication of a conceivable structure and functioning (physapath) is logically possible,

Divergent replication of structure and functioning is logically possible, Divergent replication of an actual previously existing structure and functioning (physapath) is logically possible, Divergent replication of a conceivable structure and functioning (physapath) is logically possible,

Why logically possible? No contradictions in these statements, no paradoxes, physical not a claim to magic or other supernatural processes. Structure and functioning is an understandable concept, Structure and functioning is an scaleable concept,


Actual previously existing structure and functioning --- a physapath that has existed in the past or some where in space Conceivable structure and functioning a possible physapath that has not yet existed




.1What is a replication of a conscious body experiment is? Replication experiments generally are experiments where the structure and functioning of a body, called the original, is replicated in another body. The purpose of replication experiments is to determine what will be the consciousness and ixperiencitness produced by a replication of the original's structure and functioning . Superimmortality predicts that as long as the structure and functioning of the replica is identical enough to that of the original's structure and functioning for a period of time the replication will produce the exact same consciousness and ixperiencitness as the original did, is, or will produce.

The difference between replication and repetition of a body in certain cases is not much.


.2 What replication experiments are supposed to show? Structure and functioning in relationship to behavior. Show that the principles in chapter 3 have an experimental basis.

Replication and repetition differences

Repetition to Replication continuum argument: There is no clear distinction between a repetition of the same body and a replication of the same body that leads to a demarkation of the consciousness and ixperiencitness produced by one replication and the other replication.

When comparing the difference between replication and repetition of a body and their production of consciousness and ixperiencitness there can be formed a continuum of change where there is not a discrete difference between the cidentireplica and the repetition with the same body.

The replication of structure in another body can use the same matter in the original in the exact same places.

Continuousness can form a continuum of change for a body Continuity can form a continuum of change for a body Both continuity and continuousness can form a continuum of change at the same time for a body

Continuousness can form a continuum of change for a consciousness. Continuity can form a continuum of change for a consciousness. Both continuity and continuousness can form a continuum of change at the same time for a consciousness. This shows that there is not a discrete boundary where one in clearly you and the other case is clearly not you


Continuousness meaning lack of, or small interruptions in this aspect or concept. Continuousness of one body is that the body does not die at any time over this period of time, but the matter itself can be replaced, the structure the functioning of the matter can change, as normally happens to a human body over time. Continuousness of consciousness is that the body produces consciousness except for periods of unconscious produced by sleep, drugs like anesthesia or a coma.

Examples of continuousness of the same body is a continuum concept meaning there is no clear distinction Replacement of body parts and atoms molecules etc., at different speeds are examples of variable continuousness of the body.


Examples of continuousness of the same consciousness is a continuum concept meaning there is no clear distinction Sleep, coma are examples of discontinuousness of consciousness that can be extended for indefinite periods of time.

Continuity defined as slow change or relativeness sameness of the body or consciousness over time

Examples of continuity of the same body is a continuum concept meaning there are only very small changes in the body's matter, structure and functioning, or place of existence, from one moment to the next.

Examples of continuity of the same consciousness is a continuum concept meaning there are only very small changes in the consciousness produced by the body from one moment to the next.

What about cases that there is continuity and continuousness of both consciousness and body but there is clearly not the same ixperiencitness eventually produced. First there is continuousness of both body and consciousness and there is slow changes in the body and in the consciousness the body is in a different place time and made of completely different matter. Between short periods of time there is little change in consciousness and there can be repeats of awaresections, awareparts, and awaremoments, but eventually the consciousness becomes so very different that it is clear that because of the behavior and from the inner consciousness through verbal communication this divergent consciousness becomes very different and as a result a very different ixperiencitness is produced as well. Then there can be a change back to the original

Experiments can thus show that with continuity and continuousness of both consciousness and one body, a very different consciousness and ixperiencitness can be produced. This shows that continuity and continuousness of both consciousness and body are not reliable way of determining the self over time


.3 Identical replication of consciousness producing bodies cidentireplicas A cidentireplica is a continuing identical replica of a specified original. This means that what ever original human or other conscious being is chosen or designated as the original the cidentireplica of this original will continuously have the same exact structure and functioning. The cidentireplica can be made of the same matter as the original but it will not then exist at the same time as the original. The cidentireplica can exist at different times periods as the original has or will


.4 Near identical replication near videntireplicas A videntireplica is a variation of a cidentireplica and its original. A near videntireplica is a variation of the original that still produce the same behaviorpath as the original does. This variation can be very slight from a single photon in a different phase or place to greater variation in the body and brain. There are a ver large number of possible near videntireplica to each original and its cidentireplicas. A near videntireplica can be designated as the original and thus have cidentireplicas of it.


.5 Replications with variable changes at the present time


.6 Replications in the past of a present original Replications in the past of a future point in the original's life Replications in the past of a past point in the original's life Replications at the present time of a past or previous version of the original


.7 Replications in the future of a present original Replications in the future of a future point in the original's life Replications in the future of a past point in the original's life Replications at the present time of a future version of the original


.8 Replications after restoration Does the replication made from a restored after death body produce a different consciousness and ixperiencitness than a replication of the same body before death? If the replicated body has the same or nearly the same structure and functioning is m


.9 Replications after reconfiguration of structure of the body


.10 Replications after reconfiguration of physapath producing the same awarepath or ixperiencitness.


.11 Replications with recombinations of awareparts