Quad aspect theory 6

File quad aspect theory 11:29 am Thursday, November 1 2001

There are four aspects of a person. These four aspects define the conditions of immortality and survival of death for a person. First there is “the body” the material aspect of the person. Second there is the consciousness aspect of a person, what the person experiences “the mind”. Third there is the “I experience it” aspect or “The soul”. Finally there is the effect that person has on the world and others “the behavior”.

The body aspect.

The body aspect of a person over time is the physipath.

The mind aspect.

The mental aspect of a person over time is the mentapath.

“I experience it” aspect.

The most important aspect of a person for that person is not the body or the mind but the “I experience it” aspect. If we take the situation where it is your body and your memories, personalities, and behavior etc and is not you experiencing it but some one else it really is not you. You might say how can some one else have my body, memories, behavior, personality, etc. with out being me? Imagine this, you look in the mirror and you see this other person’s body looking back at you. When you think about your life you remember memories that are not yours. Your behavior and personality is different. You are experiencing another person. This other person could be tone deaf, color blind have chronic pain and it would be you experiencing it. How much can we take away from your personal aspects of consciousness for you still to be experiencing this other person and not be that other person? People have been reported to have amnesia where memories are changed. When they use drugs or alcohol their personalities change. When we are babies is it really us that is experiencing it? When you are a baby is it really you experiencing the life of the baby. If not you then who is experiencing being this baby? It is certainly possible that there is no Ixperiencit at this stage in life but more likely there is a reduced Ixperiencit. Is it reduced in intensity? Maybe but not likely. When a child is hurt you hear it! This is no guarantee that the baby feels it but is certainly evidence that he does.

The concept of reincarnation is such that one does not have to have any memories or personality, behaviors etc. It is just that you experience it.

A person does not experience “I experience it” aspect all the time for instance when he is asleep.

The Ixperiencit Axiom

The ixperiencit aspect of a person can be shared over different bodies, consciousnesses, times, places, and behaviors. The ixperiencit aspect of a person can be shared over different physipaths, awarepaths, times, places, and behaviors.

There is no law that says that the “I experience it” aspect of a person can not be shared over different bodies, consciousness, times, and behaviors.

Behavior

The concept of survival of death effects others. What family and friends care about is the behavior and looks of this other person. They do not care about what they person is actually consciousness of, Nor if he is the same material person “the body”. These aspects of a person are not something that they can actually check. But the behavior If some one came up to you with all the right information that only the original could know you might consider this person to the the original if the original was dead. On the other hand if the person, even if he looked the same as the original, if he said he was not the same person, said he did not have the memories that the original should have and acted like some one else you may think that this person was not the original

An example of this is that a person could be replaced by another person “the body”. In this other person is a different “mind” and a different “I experience it” aspect or “soul”. The people around him including his closest friends and relatives would not know the difference if his behavior and looks were the same. If some came and said that this was not your son, husband parent etc. They would consider you crazy with out proof. Even looks are not that important because imagine a bad accident where the person is disfigured, crippled amputated. The family still accepts this person as the original. Even the behavior of a person can change by disease, accident or improvement and family will accept these changes.

If a person is rased from the dead the important characteristics are looks and behavior. If we consider the reunion in an after life again, the looks and behavior are the important aspects. If a person says that he is not your relative and acts like he is not your relative even if he looks like your relative he does not have the correct behavior.

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Ixperiencit is the term for the “I experience it” aspect of a person. Ixperiencit is pronounced just like “I experience it”. If “I don’t experience it” but some body does experience it, it is called by the term uxperiencit pronounced just like “You experience it”.

I think that the “I experience it” aspect is just a part of consciousness.

Questions can be asked about the “I experience it” aspect of a person. Is it part of consciousness? Does it change over time? Is it constant? How does it change between people and how does it change for the same person? How is it shared over a group of people? Is it shared or is it separate units Is there just one “I experience it” aspect that everyone has? The consequence of this is that everyone is “one” but that each is experiencing a different versions of consciousness. This means that you would experience everything because there is not another or different “I experience it” aspect. This means that the I experience it aspect is not a singular unique in that it only exists in one body with one experience path. The “I experience it” aspect may just be the actual act of the production of the awaremoment. It’s aware! I’m aware! Everyone may have the same feeling produced by the brain simply by the brains functioning what is the consequence of this? There seems like there would then be levels of intensity and extension of “I experience it” aspect. But this could again apply to every one because in the everyday life of a person, he will have experienced intensity and extension to different degrees.

We can also look at the situation as taking one ixperiencit and applying every possible awarepath to it. We can then do this to every possible ixperiencit. What if like awarepaths they gradually change into another ixperiencit so there is no clear difference between ixperiencit. It might just be the feeling of the moment, the fact that it is happening at that particular moment make it feel like “I am experiencing it” Just being the awaremoment is being the ixperiencit. Just being the awaremoment creates the feeling of “I experience it”.

The problem is always, from ones perspective, the thought that he is experiencing it and not me when we look at other people. I am not experiencing what he is experiencing so he can not be me. It is like the situation of the sun appearing to rise and them setting every day it is obvious that the sun is going around the earth rather than the earth spinning on its axis.

File I experience it 11:33 pm Sunday, October 21 2001

Ixperiencit the name for the term “I experience it” aspect of consciousness Uxperiencit the name for the term “You experience it” aspect of consciousness as contrasted with the ixperiencit aspect. The uxperiencit is from the perspective of the ixperiencit .

For immortality to be created by any awarepath or physipath it has to have or produce the ixperiencit aspect of consciousness.

What is the ixperiencit aspect of consciousness? Is it uniquely tied to only one consciousness or body? If this is so them each body will have to have a unique one but since no physical or conscious characteristic is connected to it. You can only define it as some thing that we have right now. But did I have it when I was younger? If not how can we define ourselves with this concept? So we do have this ixperiencit at a younger age. At this younger age we had a different consciousness than we do now.

The question is does a cidentireplica have the ixperiencit aspect in it? This theory says that it does. Other theories may say not.

further axioms The “I experience it” axioms mepath or soul path

To create a person there can be intelligence used. The more knowledge we have the more that we can shape the awarepath that is produced. We (humans) are making physipath that produce awarepaths. We try to modify these physipath so that they produce an awarepath closer to the one that we desire to exist in others.

Everyone has enhanced extended awarepaths.

The aspect of the “I experience it” or me rather than you

The key aspect of immortality is that “I experience it” not someone else. I don’t have to have any particular memories or personality or intelligence etc. with which I experience it with. It just has to be me experiencing it. We know that all of these conscious aspects of a person change over time, the key thing is that I experience it. What ever it may be is any sensepath to be specific but it is also any interpretation of these different sensepaths. What is the “I experience it” aspect of a person? Is it part of consciousness? Do we get it every time that we duplicate a particular consciousness? Is it some different aspect of a person

We can always say that we have all the consciousness together and the body together but it does not have the “I experience it” property in other words it is something experiencing all the different memories experiences feelings

The identity theory says that the “I experience it” aspect of a person is an aspect of consciousness and is produced by the functioning and structure of the body and specifically the brain. It is not unique to one person or one body or at one time.

The mepath axioms

The mepath is an aspect of consciousness the mepath is part of the awarepath

The mepath is produced by the neuropath. The memoment is produced by the neuromoment. The mepath changes over a day. The mepath disappears during certain types of sleep. The same mepath can be in many different awarepaths and can be produced by many different physipaths. The same mepath can be in different people at the same time. The mepath -- “I experience it” can be aware of itself or not

The self awarepath is an aspect of consciousness.

The soulpath is a part of consciousness.

How are they different? They do not have to be the same over time in one person. The self awarepath will be the consciousness about the awarepath. The mepath is the actually feeling of me experiencing this consciousness. The soul path is defined as a combination of the mepath and the selfawarepath. The feeling of “I experience it” changes as a person gets tired or sick. It can be not as strong or stronger. It can be specific to certain experiences so that some experiences are stronger and others are weaker.

How does the me path apply to the knowledge path? What kind of knowledge is the “I experience it” aspect. We can define it through our own experiences with the “I experience it”. Sometimes, I do not even think that I did experience it. Can I feel some one else experiencing “I experience it”? These are a type of layered feelings. What we do know is what it is like to be us -- ourselves at a certain time and we can imagine this experience again happening at a different place and time. We can also imagine there are many of these events exactly alike. So that we are not aware of the different experiences or there being more than one experiencing the “I experience it” aspect. There can also be the awarepath that in fact does experience there being more than one “me” in space and time. This type of awarepath can notice the sameness of the me in different locations or times. It can also recognize the me with the variations in them. So we can have awarepaths that can sense no only identical awarepaths through space and time but differences in awarepaths that contain the same mevenue.

The mevenue is a grouping of mepaths.

How can we define the “I experience it” aspect apart from all other aspects of consciousness? Can we even say that it is different aspect of consciousness? It may be the combinations of other aspects of consciousness. It may be the same for all conscious beings. If this is the case it might be that there is only the one “I experience it” and it ends up experiencing every thing including gods animals etc, other life forms. It only appears that other people are not you when you actually are the one experiencing all these different aspects of yourself. If this is the can it is god that is experiencing everything but the parts will not be aware of the whole but there can be parts that are aware of greater wholes.

We can say that

The Ixperiencit test

The Ixperiencit test is the test that tells if you exist in the some person through time. It is thus a key test in deciding if a person has survived death. Simply put if you experience the consciousness that a particular person experiences the you exist in that person. Do I experience it, or do you experience it, or does no one experience it?

The person is me if I experience it the person is not me if you experience it

The ixperiencit test is a test to determine if a person is me or not.

Can more than one person experience the same consciousness produced by the body? Can more than one (different) ixperiencit experience the same awarepath produced by the same physipath?

It is also the test to determine if a person is in the same mevenue. Within a mevenue there will be either the nullixperiencit or ixperiencit awarepoints. The ixperiencit points have to surrounded by the ixperiencit points to be within the mevenue. After your death if another body -- physipath has your ixperiencit you have survived death.

What about regions of overlap of uxperiencit and ixperiencit points? There is nothing that says that an awarepath has to have the ixperiencit aspect to it at all places on the awarepath.

The Ixperiencit Pseudo Paradox

It is supposed to be a paradox if more than one person is you at a time. It is apparent that other people are experiencing some thing different than you and you are not in control of their bodies so they can not be you. The belief goes that if this other person were actually you, you would be experiencing what they are experiencing. But since you are not they are not you. This leads many to the belief that there can only be one unique person at a time. We know (at least by definition if not in fact) that the previous you (when you were younger) had the ixperiencit aspect to it and we believe that the future you will have the ixperiencit aspect in it also, but if you were to go back in time and see that previous you, you would think that, that person was different and thus had the uxperiencit aspect instead of the your ixperiencit aspect. Looking at another person we can not tell if that person has your ixperiencit. In this time travel experiment, the apparent paradox is that there will be two people that have the same soul (ixperiencit) and the soul (ixperiencit) is supposed to apply to one person at a time and that you (the one and only unique you) will experience it and control it. Some one might argue that this previous you is not really you. This is not a very satisfying argument because where were you in the past if not in yourself? There are only three possibilities either there is your ixperiencit, uxperiencit or nulxperiencit. We can reapply this idea of time travel with you at different ages as often as we wish so that there could be many people that have the ixperiencit aspect together at one time. The obvious counter to this is that time travel is impossible so there will never be two or more people with the same soul (ixperiencit), existing at the same time. It is a pseudo paradox because there can be more than one different person with the same ixperiencit existing at the same time. Although there may not be time travel there are a number of different structures and functioning that correspond to different times and potential times in the life of a person. When these different neuropaths exist at the same time they will have the same ixperiencit in it.

Unless the ixperiencit aspect only lasts for an instance there will be other awaresections of at least your awarepath that have your ixperiencit aspect with in it. You can not tell if another person has the ixperiencit, nulxperiencit, or uxperiencit aspect in it.

Why do we need to deal with the ixperiencit concept? Because this seems to be the key to immortality and survival of death. The concept my be real but the distinction between the ixperiencit and uxperiencit may be an illusion. Most likely it is a graduated concept that applied to everyone and to the same person to some degree. It is probably graduated in at least two ways intensity and breadth. It seems like in a person’s life there are periods that we do not feel the intensity of ixperiencit as much like in sleep. Then later it seems that it is very intense. Then sometimes it seems to encompass a broad range of topics and at other a very small almost nonexistent concentration.

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